J.J. Abrams Employee Explains LOST, 14-Minute Epilogue To Appear on DVD

It’s been nearly a week and we’re still not sure what went on during Sunday’s series finale of LOST. Theories ran rampant about 30 seconds after the show’s final moments aired, and I don’t know about you, but I’m exhausted. Still, we must press on. For posterity. Or divine wisdom. Or cheesy snacks. (Whatever peels your sci-fi banana.)

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During an interview on G4′s Attack of the Show, Michael Emerson (Ben Linus) let slip that there is a 12 to 14-minute scene of Hurley and Ben’s time as the new Jacob and Richard that explores parts of the island’s mythology that haven’t been aired before.

“For those people that want to pony up and buy the complete LOST series, there is a bonus feature, which is…you could call it an epilogue, a lost scene. It’s a lot. It’s 12 or 14 minutes that opens a window onto that gap of unknown time between Hurley becoming number one and the end of the series. It’s self-contained, although it’s a rich period in the show’s mythology that ‘s never been explored, so who knows what will come of it.”

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[via Attack of the Show]

This next LOST tidbit is more meaty, and has a likelihood of about .25 percent of not being complete BS. Apparently, a Bad Robot employee has come forward anonymously to explain the ending of LOST to us. Take it for what you will:

Good stuff on here! I can finally throw in my two cents! I’ve had to bite my tongue for far too long. Also, hopefully I can answer some of John’s questions about Dharma and the “pointless breadcrumbs” that really, weren’t so pointless …

First …
The Island:

It was real. Everything that happened on the island that we saw throughout the 6 seasons was real. Forget the final image of the plane crash, it was put in purposely to f*&k with people’s heads and show how far the show had come. They really crashed. They really survived. They really discovered Dharma and the Others. The Island keeps the balance of good and evil in the world. It always has and always will perform that role. And the Island will always need a “Protector”. Jacob wasn’t the first, Hurley won’t be the last. However, Jacob had to deal with a malevolent force (MIB) that his mother, nor Hurley had to deal with. He created the devil and had to find a way to kill him — even though the rules prevented him from actually doing so.

Thus began Jacob’s plan to bring candidates to the Island to do the one thing he couldn’t do. Kill the MIB. He had a huge list of candidates that spanned generations. Yet everytime he brought people there, the MIB corrupted them and caused them to kill one another. That was until Richard came along and helped Jacob understand that if he didn’t take a more active role, then his plan would never work.

Enter Dharma — which I’m not sure why John is having such a hard time grasping. Dharma, like the countless scores of people that were brought to the island before, were brought there by Jacob as part of his plan to kill the MIB. However, the MIB was aware of this plan and interferred by “corrupting” Ben. Making Ben believe he was doing the work of Jacob when in reality he was doing the work of the MIB. This carried over into all of Ben’s “off-island” activities. He was the leader. He spoke for Jacob as far as they were concerned. So the “Others” killed Dharma and later were actively trying to kill Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley and all the candidates because that’s what the MIB wanted. And what he couldn’t do for himself.

Dharma was originally brought in to be good. But was turned bad by MIB’s corruption and eventually destroyed by his pawn Ben. Now, was Dharma only brought there to help Jack and the other Canditates on their overall quest to kill Smokey? Or did Jacob have another list of Canidates from the Dharma group that we were never aware of? That’s a question that is purposley not answered because whatever answer the writers came up with would be worse than the one you come up with for yourself. Still … Dharma’s purpose is not “pointless” or even vague. Hell, it’s pretty blantent.

Still, despite his grand plan, Jacob wanted to give his “candidates” (our Lostaways) the one thing he, nor his brother, were ever afforded: free will. Hence him bringing a host of “candidates” through the decades and letting them “choose” which one would actually do the job in the end. Maybe he knew Jack would be the one to kill Flocke and that Hurley would be the protector in the end. Maybe he didn’t. But that was always the key question of the show: Fate vs Free-will. Science vs Faith. Personally I think Jacob knew from the beginning what was going to happen and that everyone played a part over 6 seasons in helping Jack get to the point where he needed to be to kill Smokey and make Hurley the protector — I know that’s how a lot of the writers viewed it. But again, they won’t answer that (nor should they) because that ruins the fun.

In the end, Jack got to do what he always wanted to do from the very first episode of the show: Save his fellow Lostaways. He got Kate and Sawyer off the island and he gave Hurley the purpose in life he’d always been missing. And, in Sideways world (which we’ll get to next) he in fact saved everyone by helping them all move on …

Now…

Sideways World:

Sideways world is where it gets really cool in terms of theology and metaphysical discussion (for me at least — because I love history/religion theories and loved all the talks in the writer’s room about it). Basically what the show is proposing is that we’re all linked to certain people during our lives. Call them soulmates (though it’s not exactly the best word). But these people we’re linked to are with us duing “the most important moments of our lives” as Christian said. These are the people we move through the universe with from lifetime to lifetime. It’s loosely based in Hinduisim with large doses of western religion thrown into the mix.

The conceit that the writers created, basing it off these religious philosophies, was that as a group, the Lostaways subconsciously created this “sideways” world where they exist in purgatory until they are “awakened” and find one another. Once they all find one another, they can then move on and move forward. In essence, this is the show’s concept of the afterlife. According to the show, everyone creates their own “Sideways” purgatory with their “soulmates” throughout their lives and exist there until they all move on together. That’s a beautiful notion. Even if you aren’t religious or even spirtual, the idea that we live AND die together is deeply profound and moving.

It’s a really cool and spirtual concept that fits the whole tone and subtext the show has had from the beginning. These people were SUPPOSED to be together on that plane. They were supposed to live through these events — not JUST because of Jacob. But because that’s what the universe or God (depending on how religious you wish to get) wanted to happen. The show was always about science vs faith — and it ultimately came down on the side of faith. It answered THE core question of the series. The one question that has been at the root of every island mystery, every character backstory, every plot twist. That, by itself, is quite an accomplishment.

How much you want to extrapolate from that is up to you as the viewer. Think about season 1 when we first found the Hatch. Everyone thought that’s THE answer! Whatever is down there is the answer! Then, as we discovered it was just one station of many. One link in a very long chain that kept revealing more, and more of a larger mosiac.

But the writer’s took it even further this season by contrasting this Sideways “purgatory” with the Island itself. Remember when Michael appeared to Hurley, he said he was not allowed to leave the Island. Just like the MIB. He wasn’t allowed into this sideways world and thus, was not afforded the opportunity to move on. Why? Because he had proven himself to be unworthy with his actions on the Island. He failed the test. The others, passed. They made it into Sideways world when they died — some before Jack, some years later. In Hurley’s case, maybe centuries later. They exist in this sideways world until they are “awakened” and they can only move on TOGETHER because they are linked. They are destined to be together for eternity. That was their destiny.

They were NOT linked to Anna Lucia, Daniel, Roussou, Alex, Miles, Lupidis, (and all the rest who weren’t in the chuch — basically everyone who wasn’t in season 1). Yet those people exist in Sideways world. Why? Well again, here’s where they leave it up to you to decide. The way I like to think about it, is that those people who were left behind in Sideways world have to find their own soulmates before they can wake up. It’s possible that those links aren’t people from the island but from their other life (Anna’s parnter, the guy she shot — Roussou’s husband, etc etc).

A lot of people have been talking about Ben and why he didn’t go into the Church. And if you think of Sideways world in this way, then it gives you the answer to that very question. Ben can’t move on yet because he hasn’t connected with the people he needs to. It’s going to be his job to awaken Roussou, Alex, Anna Lucia (maybe), Ethan, Goodspeed, his father and the rest. He has to attone for his sins more than he did by being Hurley’s number two. He has to do what Hurley and Desmond did for our Lostaways with his own people. He has to help them connect. And he can only move on when all the links in his chain are ready to. Same can be said for Faraday, Charlotte, Whidmore, Hawkins etc. It’s really a neat, and cool concept. At least to me.

But, from a more “behind the scenes” note: the reason Ben’s not in the church, and the reason no one is in the church but for Season 1 people is because they wrote the ending to the show after writing the pilot. And never changed it. The writers always said (and many didn’t believe them) that they knew their ending from the very first episode. I applaud them for that. It’s pretty fantastic. Originally Ben was supposed to have a 3 episode arc and be done. But he became a big part of the show. They could have easily changed their ending and put him in the church — but instead they problem solved it. Gave him a BRILLIANT moment with Locke outside the church … and then that was it. I loved that. For those that wonder — the original ending started the moment Jack walked into the church and touches the casket to Jack closing his eyes as the other plane flies away. That was always JJ’s ending. And they kept it.

For me the ending of this show means a lot. Not only because I worked on it, but because as a writer it inspired me in a way the medium had never done before. I’ve been inspired to write by great films. Maybe too many to count. And there have been amazing TV shows that I’ve loved (X-Files, 24, Sopranos, countless 1/2 hour shows). But none did what LOST did for me. None showed me that you could take huge risks (writing a show about faith for network TV) and stick to your creative guns and STILL please the audience. I learned a lot from the show as a writer. I learned even more from being around the incredible writers, producers, PAs, interns and everyone else who slaved on the show for 6 years.

In the end, for me, LOST was a touchstone show that dealt with faith, the afterlife, and all these big, spirtual questions that most shows don’t touch. And to me, they never once waivered from their core story — even with all the sci-fi elements they mixed in. To walk that long and daunting of a creative tightrope and survive is simply astounding.

[via SpoilerTV]

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And finally, ABC has officially commented on those pesky photos of a vacant island shown during the finale’s credits. No, they’re not part of the show.

In fact, an ABC spokesperson had this to say in an email to the LA Times:

“The images shown during the end credits of the LOST finale, which included shots of Oceanic 815 on a deserted beach, were not part of the final story but were a visual aid to allow the viewer to decompress before heading into the news.”

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There you have it.

[via LA Times]

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  • rully06

    Great explanation. I picked up on all this as the show progressed and didn’t think nothing of the final plane crash images.

  • sb226

    Was Vincent in the first episdoe? I can’t remember. If he was then I really think he should have been in the church with them. All Good Dogs go to Heaven!

  • Kemper

    So they planned that final scene from the very first as a reunion of the origonal passengers? Makes me wonder why Michael and WAAAALLLTTT!! weren’t there then. Of course, I know they’d prefer all about WAAALLLTTT!! and why they spent a couple of seasons telling us how special he was only to boot him off the island when the actor’s growth spurt kicked in….

  • Kemper

    Typing FAIL. I meant: I know they’d prefer that we forgot all about WAAALLLTT!!!

  • charlieromeobravo

    thanks for posting this. It may be BS but it’s coherent and solid sounding enough to be given some weight if not taken as the gospel from an insider.

    RE: The Crash Images: ABC wins the “we’re fuckwit douchebags” of the year award for basically showing the whole world that they don’t pay attention to the shows they broadcast beyond the ratings numbers. If they had a inkling of a clue of what the show was about and how people watched it they would have realized that EVERY image of that show was laboriously picked apart by the viewers. The producers know that and were very careful about what they presented on the show because of that. ABC putting some random image in there just screwed with people who are used to every image meaning something and it was particularly misleading given the contents of the previous 2 hours of TV we just watched.

  • charlieromeobravo

    @Kemper

    You might try looking for the New York Times Lost Live event on You Tube. Carlton and Damon explained the Walt thing to some degree. Some of it was that they were stupid and cast a 12 year old to play a 9 year old but they also touch on Walt’s specialness. Basically, Walt’s paranormal abilities freaked The Others out so much that they just wanted him gone.

  • charlieromeobravo

    NY Times Lost Live event:

    It’s 10 10 minute parts, very informative and entertaining.

  • Kemper

    charlieromeobravo
    May. 27, 2010 14:55pm

    NY Times Lost Live event:

    It’s 10 10 minute parts, very informative and entertaining.
    charlieromeobravo
    May. 27, 2010 14:56pm

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    Yeah, I’m still not buying that they had the final scene planned out so well that they wouldn’t include Ben. What about Juliet and Penny? They didn’t know that Ben would become such a key character but they somehow had planned out Juliet and Penny?

    @CRB – I’m not so much mocking the WAAAALLLTTT! storyline as I am this idea that they had this final scene planned out so well from Day 1 that they refused to include Ben because he wasn’t in their original version.

    What about Juliet and Penny? They didn’t know that Ben would become such a key character but they somehow they knew that Juliet and Penny would work out like they did and had them written in? Riiiiiiggggghhhhhhttt……….

  • Kemper

    OK. Obviously the Island doesn’t want me to post so I’m gonna stop trying.

  • jayhawkda

    Interesting analysis and insight. However I’d like to point out some inconsistencies in that analysis. The insider explanation as to why Ben was left out was because the final scene was written at the time of the original pilot and only season one characters would appear. However Desmond and Penny also appear and they weren’t seen until season two. Bernard did not appear until season two. So that original conception of the final scene was subject to some changes, so why not include Ben?

    As to his explanation as to why Michael was left out, insider explains because he hadn’t earned it. Michael killed Ana Lucia and Libby. Okay. But what about Sayid? Sayid has killed more people and inflicted more harm that Michael ever did. At least Michael’s motivation was the safety of his child. Sayid’s killings haven’t always had a better motivation at heart. Insider might reply that Sayid’s ultimate sacrifice at the end of the Candidate redeemed him. But Michael also was blown up on the freighter. He sacrificed himself to buy more time for the others to get off the boat. Why didn’t that earn him his place in the sideways flash?

  • zoglog

    Wow, that was a long & wordy distraction from the truth. (They simply had horrible story management skills and realized too late that they only had 1 more season left to close up the show. So they created a useless side-plot and ended the show while swimming in their own clever pretentiousness about “f*&k[ing] with people’s heads and show how far the show had come”)

  • NextGen

    They say people only from Season 1 were in the church…yet Juliet, Desmond, and Libby were all there too, so that can’t be true.

  • http://erieangel.wordpress.com erieangel

    I’m sorry, I’m not buying it. From other things I’ve read over the years, Jack was originally supposed to die at the end of the pilot, but the show turned out to be all about him. For me, and others, the show-its appeal for us anyway, was never about faith vs. science/destiny vs. free will. It was Gillian’s Island gone sci-fi. And its was never the Gillian aspects of the show that drove us, it was the mystery introduced from the very first episode. Some of those mysteries were explained along the way though far too many of them were not. And the mysteries solved often raised even more questions.

    As far as I’m concerned, Lost proved to be little more than an experiment for the writers to see how much the audience would accept at face value. And the number of people insisting on all the boards of the finale’s brilliance, says people will accept quite a lot. The writers were far too cleaver, inventing mysteries and pseudo-science they had no idea of resolving in any believable fashion, so they didn’t even try.

    “Everybody dies sometime”. Well, duh. That is the lamest ending to a great mystery I’ve seen. Yes, the ending was emotionally powerful, in that almost all the characters get to “live” happily ever after, but it failed to answer far too many of the unresolved mysteries. When watching the pilot episode for the time, I remember thinking all those years ago, ok, this is going to be a modern day Gillian’s Island, then the noises were heard from the jungle and they heard the prerecorded message from Roussou that had been playing for years…that’s when I was hooked. It was the questions, the mystery, that drove me and many others of my ilk.

  • http://rokpool.wordpress.com rokpool

    ahhahahaha i love it

  • maximumpig

    Putting something only on the DVD for the full collection is the heigth of rapaciousness but also serves to remind us that, at the end of the day, the show was, like many things, about money . . .

    As for “Thus began Jacob’s plan to bring candidates to the Island to do the one thing he couldn’t do. Kill the MIB. He had a huge list of candidates that spanned generations. Yet every time he brought people there, the MIB corrupted them and caused them to kill one another. That was until Richard came along and helped Jacob understand that if he didn’t take a more active role, then his plan would never work.”

    Well what in the show actually supports this? Where did Richard come from and why doesn’t he age? Why didn’t Richard just kill MIB?

    Who was it that actually convinced Ben to gas the Dharma project people? I thought it was Richard actually, which is not consistent with the MIB corruption theory unless you think it wasn’t Richard but the MIB that did it–
    which then means that the entire narrative is suspect because *anyone* at *anytime* could have been the MIB.

    Furthermore, if MIB knew all these people were coming to the Island to kill him, why didn’t he just exterminate them all on sight?

    Basically, while most of this theory is not inconsistent with what we saw on the show, there is little evidence to actually support it.

    As for the ending being filmed with the pilot, that just proves that you could slap that end on any show and it would be beautiful and sweet (think Seinfeld, Friends, the Jeffersons + All in the Family, etc.) –it would be consistent with, but utterly disconnected from, anything that happened before.

    Also, the “writer” who contributed this exposition spells many of the characters’ names wrong (it’s “Frank Lapidus” for example) so for that and other reasons, I call BS.

  • thewayofthegunn

    Despite the eloquent explanation of the final episode of LOST, I still find myself feeling jipped about the end of the series. The question I asked myself at the end was, “Knowing how it ended, would I want to watch the series again? The answer was, “No.”

    Honestly, that’s where you make your money.

    During the 2 hour special prior to the last episode, the writers said that they wanted to respect the intelligence of their audience. They failed at the end.
    One of the main reasons I began to watch and yes, became obsessed by LOST was that not only did it not involve police/criminal investigations, hospitals/doctors or lawyers/courts, it dealt with some fundamental philosophical issues, such as: free will vs. determinism and the struggle between good and evil. The ending of this series dropped all that, so they could “focus on the importance of the relationships between the characters.” I pretty much got the “importance of the relationships-thing” while watching the first 5 seasons. These people went from being complete strangers to a closely knit community in about 3 months (LOST time). I didn’t need to be blunged by it and then buried in it, at the end. If the “relationships” were so important, then what happened to: Charles Widmore, Ana Lucia, Michael & his son, etc. during the sentimental, “pairing off”, church scene at the end? Scheduling problems with the actors? When did Benjamin Linus have an epiphany? He went from a sociopath to Hurley’s little helper in a matter of moments.
    The question everyone wanted answered was “What the hell is the island all about?” Jacob’s 30 second analogy of a corked wine flask, just doesn’t cut it.In addition, the startling revelation that we all eventually die, was a real cop out.
    These people were experiencing a living nightmare, Twilight Zone-style. Therefore, it should have had a Twilight Zone ending.
    Alternate ending:
    The whole “All Dogs Go to Heaven” timeline should have been dropped. The focus should have been entirely on the struggle between the Oceanic survivors and Jacob. Who, if anyone, will replace Jacob?
    When Jack finally buys the farm, and he watches the jet fly over (but doesn’t know who made it onto the plane), he sees Vincent and closes his eyes.
    Then, return to the opening scene of the pilot episode, when Jack opens his eye, sees Vincent and is lying in the jungle. When he rushes to the beach, his look of horror, could be from the accident scene or it could be because he realized the whole thing is about to begin again. Fade to Black!
    That’s an interesting ending. That makes people ask questions, like they did at the beginning of the series.
    Now, if people ask me if they should experience LOST, this is what I would say:
    “It was a great concept, and there were some wonderful episodes and story lines, but don’t expect a lot from the ending; just enjoy the series, while you’re watching it.”
    It was disappointing, because it was “safe”; and “safe” was NOT what LOST was all about.

  • thewayofthegunn

    Some Additional Observations

    Analyze This

    During the pre-finale special, the writers stated that one of the main the focuses of LOST was the resolution of Jack’s relationship with his father, Christian. One could argue that all the characters had some “issues” in their lives: Kate with her mother/step-father, Michael with Walt, Sun with Jin and her father, Charlie with drugs, Claire with her unborn son, etc., etc. These aspects of their characters moulded how or why they reacted to the various situations during the series; they were not the focus of the series. Yes, they learned from the experiences presented to them, but I didn’t watch LOST to be part of Therapy 101. Especially, at the end when the call went out: “Group hugs, everyone!”

    In my opinion, the whole point of LOST was to say, as the tagline of “A Scanner Darkly” so succinctly stated: “Everything is not going to be OK”. This whole series had the hallmarks of a Philip K. Dick story. There have only been 2 other excellent versions of his works made into film: Ridley Scott’s “Blade Runner” D/C or F/C versions and Gary Fleder’s “Imposter”. The others are mundane or terrible, because they failed to understand the basic underlying principle of our post-modern existence, “Everything is not going to be ok.” (See Spielberg’s “Minority Report” as an example of how not to end a Philip K. Dick story.)

    So, my question to you is: “Why did you make everything ok in the end?”

    Plan B

    It has been argued that the entire story of LOST was planned out from its inception, and this is perhaps true, but only on a rudimentary level.
    The original story concept had the character of Dr. Jack Shephard being “killed off” either in the pilot episode or shortly thereafter. Actor Michael Keaton was to play the role, until it was decided that Jack would be the focus of the series. At that point, Keaton backed out. Change #1.
    Michael Emerson, who played Ben Linus as an adult, claimed in the pre-finale special that his character was originally scheduled for only 2-3 episodes, but this was also changed. In fact, he appeared in 60 episodes of LOST. Change #2.
    Here are 2 examples of the plan being changed. If it was changed twice; once at the source and again in midstream, then it could have been changed more times, such as: making a clean, sweet & “feel good” ending.
    It is true that the conclusion of any series, is to say good-bye to the characters and the show, but a weepy, sentimental and therapeutic ending was not in keeping with the style that was established in Season 1.

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