Wired vs. Women: Too Much Objectification In Tech?

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Is women’s greatest contribution to technology and/or geekdom their bodies? No, but sometimes it may be hard to assume otherwise.

On newsstands, December’s cover of Wired magazine is a little hard to miss. Accompanying a piece on tissue engineering is a shot of a woman’s cleavage. Slapped with the cover line, “100% Natural,” it’s a visual (sexual) assault. In a struggling publishing industry, highly sexualized images of women have become so common that we’ve become suspect to otherwise respectable images. But thankfully, we’re hardly subjected to those pesky decent images of women in American media…

Two days ago, Cindy Royal scolded Wired in a blog post that’s been cheered around the Web many times over. An assistant professor at Texas State University, Royal rebuked the magazine for its depiction of women as faceless, person-less beings. “A pair of breasts, no head, no rest of body… just boobs,” she wrote. “Sure it accompanied a story on tissue re-engineering, so what other possible way might you visually represent that, but with a pair of breasts? No other possible way?”

Royal, who teaches web development and journalism, went on to list Wired’s prior offenses – a naked Pam from The Office, LonelyGirl15, sexy manga. Turns out, the faceless breasts were just one sexualization too many. “You’re better than this, she wrote. “You don’t need to treat women in this light to sell magazines. You have the power to influence the ways that women envision their roles with technology. Instead, you’re not helping.” Turns out, it was the first chords of a collective, “We Ain’t Gonna Take It Anymore” Internet sing-a-long voiced via Facebook, Tumblr and Twitter, reinforcing that Royal is certainly not alone in her thoughts.

The post has since attracted more than 150 commenters, including one that we found a little surprising: Wired editor Chris Anderson, as confirmed by Royal in a post update. In an open response to Royal’s allegations, Anderson argues that cleavage was the only reasonable representation of a story about breasts. “Of all the covers with cleavage out there, it’s hard to find one more editorially justified than that,” he wrote. And while it’s easy to make sense of his logic, Anderson manages to basically skirt the issue of why these “well-known, likable” women who do manage to grace the magazine’s cover are more often than not, half-dressed at best. Instead of admit that he was attempting to market his magazine to men, he balked.

Nevermind that the magazine has only managed to put a handful of minorities on the cover in its time, it’s almost as if Anderson is blaming women for not being interesting enough to grace the cover of Wired for anything else but a sex gag. (What happened to a good old fashioned apology?) It didn’t sound as if Royal bought the explanation, either. “I just can’t continue to, in good conscience, recommend Wired to my students, when you continue to reinforce the stereotypes that I am trying to refute.” Atta girl.

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  • http://youtube.com/churchhatestucker Church

    “…Anderson manages to basically skirt the issue of why these “well-known, likable” women who do manage to grace the magazine’s cover are more often than not, half-dressed at best. Instead of admit that he was attempting to market his magazine to men, he balked.

    Read more: http://techland.com/2010/11/12/wired-vs-women-too-much-objectification-in-tech/#ixzz157LWMzys

    Have you looked at the cover of a woman’s magazine lately? Comely women sell both ways.

    I appreciate Cindy’s point, and hope its addressed, but I can understand Chris doing the easy thing.

  • chimparzan

    You know when I see one of my girlfriends magazines with a dudes abs on the front cover it dosnt instantly bring to mind thoughts of my gender being objectified. I can understand the frustration over him not just saying out right “yeah, we market to dudes” but for once could something release without all these experts picking every little thing apart and making a huge deal about it.

    These people just read to much into everything. They are like that friend that will sit there and dissect a movie while everyone else just wants to watch and have fun. Except that instead of a movie they are all over the net, nitpicking everything that exists.

  • dreinn

    @chimparzan If men were objectified as frequently as women are, you just might think exactly that when you view those abs.

    “These people” read too much into things? I think you’re making your sexism readily apparent, sir. Your willful comments are far more offensive than the ignorance displayed by Wired magazine and the hundreds of publications like it.

    For my part, even the “marketing to dudes” angle is insulting – to both sexes. To say that men are only interested in women as sexual objects, or that only such a depiction can cause a man to buy a magazine, is insulting to my intelligence.

    And to say to a woman that the only way she can cause a man to buy a magazine is to display herself sexually is to say that she has nothing else to offer – insulting and untrue.

    Thanks for the good summary of the issue, Allie. And I hope that Wired eventually learns something from it. Baby steps…

  • http://inevitableeructation.wordpress.com inevitableeructation

    If men were objectified as often as women maybe we would look upon it differently but as it is we are objectified somewhat less and we don’t mind too much. The solution therefore is for women to be objectified somewhat less. To completely cease all objectification would be offensive as censorship. To objectify too much is offensive. What must be found is the middle ground where offense is less likely, i.e, the amount of objectification that is made of the male body which has been proven to be acceptable. Penthouse probably lies on the side of too much objectification. A monthly based around militant islamic ideals probably lies on the side of too staid. Wired probably lies in the middle ground which to most people would be perfectly acceptable, to try and stop it is a bit too much like unnecessary censorship.

  • chimparzan

    @ dreinn
    Your comment is exactly the kind of thing Im talking about, if a male has any opinion I am suddenly an ignorant sexist!

    Im glad you were able to pull the statements hidden in my comment like “to say to a woman that the only way she can cause a man to buy a magazine is to display herself sexually is to say that she has nothing else to offer” cause it proves my point that you just pull whatever you want to read out of what I say. You just want to see some ignorant person you can look down on so you will turn my comment into a slight against humanity.

    If they plastered mens abs over everything I dont think it would change my mind, some people dont lose their mind over every little thing. Im interested to see what sexist statements Ive hidden in this comment!

  • richardsrussell

    It all depends on where you’re coming from. Men look at the cover and see sexuality. Feminists look at it and see sexism. A 1-year-old looks at it and sees lunch.

  • dreinn

    @chimparzan.

    I have no interest in looking down on you, nor do I hold any particular animosity toward you. Sexism, like racism, is a learned behavior that is very difficult to break out of when society isn’t giving you a reason to. In a pre-CRA America, racism was an easy thing that was being touted as normal by societal convention. Today, the same situation exists for sexists.

    You’re not being given any incentive to fight your conditioning, and (as all of us do) respond to the idea that closely-held beliefs are wrong-headed with defensiveness and force.

    But the logical results of your kind of thinking shouldn’t be neglected because of a negative emotional response. They result in a culture where the objectification of women is not just accepted and tolerated, but promoted.

    I’m sorry to have upset you, but this is not just my opinion. @richardrussell, I’m proud to call myself a feminist, but the sexism isn’t just in my eyes (though I do see your point about perspectives). Feminist research isn’t based on emotion or offense, but on logic and study.

    I sincerely encourage you to spend an afternoon on Google Scholar or JSTOR and really take a look at the state of sex relations in the US. Even if your minds aren’t changed, I’m confident you’ll find some interesting things to think about.

    Again, I’m not sorry about what I said, but am I sorry that it bothered you. I could have been much less direct in the way I said it.

    -Dave

  • richardsrussell

    I’m proud to call myself a feminist as well, Dave (and, in fact, I’m quite active helping to put on the world’s leading feminist science-fiction convention, WisCon, every Memorial Day), but I’m also a sucker for a good gag and couldn’t resist this one. 8^D

  • deerwithfangs

    This is interesting. I’ve often said that a lot of people are so used to objectification in general media they accept it and hardly notice it. I’m glad to see it brought up by someone other than myself. Usually people simply don’t see the problem and make remarks such as I see here claiming if the same images of men were typical it wouldn’t bother them.

    First, there is no possible way of knowing that to be the case since no one who says it is familiar first hand with the long term psychological effect of being bombarded with such imagery. Minorities have exposure to similar things, but social consciousness of racial issues is higher these days than it once was so it’s not viewed as entirely the same thing.

    Also it made me chuckle seeing the assumption that dreinn was female thrown in here.

  • seanmaccloud

    Like every debate in the middlebrow male community (eg capitalism and tech) this one is framed wrong too. (It is like a pro rasslin script or harlem globe trotter exhibition: we know who the winner will be before it starts.)

    Wired’s cover is not necessarily evidence of too much “objectification in tech.” (Even the headline itself is manipulative; And “too Much” as though any would be tolerated.) It might be evidence of too much objectification on one wired mag’s cover. But even that is a “just so” contention dependent on believing that whatever one says is hurtful to females automatically is [see my closing section here].

    A mag cover –created by a struggling mag as part of their ‘contrived controversy*’ plot– does nothing to disprove that our society unconstitutionally bends over backwards to help females, while discarding and stomping on its own cherished _BS_ (“equal protection”, “anti discrimination”, “no stereotyping”, etc and etc BS).

    [*Contrived controversy: Note Hollywood inviting rabbis to an _early_ screening of mel gibson's jesus flick so as to create walking megaphones.]

    Tech –like capitalism– is one of the most bent-over-backwards to be deferential-to-dames communities there is. Both tech and capitalism are filled with unconstitutional appointments and promotions conferred on those who offer nothing to their employers other than the “right” face in the company’s roster yearbook.

    Both tech and capitalism are supra vulnerable to feminist /liberal cajoling, being filled with rich/urbane upwardly mobile wimps selling stuff to dollar holders.

    Our zeitgeist is feminism. Has been so for centuries, regardless of the smug warped lens to the contrary.

    Chimparzan, regarding denouncing feminist mouth pieces as female, males are the biggest –and most dangerous– feminists. Always have been. Feminism is a euro-male vs euro-male phenom [throw a jew in there in front of one of those]. Society’s inability to get that is one reason feminism has done so well.


    Next, if SWPLs are concerned about the larger cultural psycho babble implications springing from tawdriness and sexual objectification on mag covers and how that cracks the fragile egg shell minds of society, be more concerned with the non stop tawdry and vapid sexual objectification that exists on EVERY magazine cover, EVERY month on EVERY rack at ALL the food store’s checkout lanes. Ie the endless gossip rags.


    Saying that “female flesh on display is indicative of a hurtful to female pro male culture” is a “just so” contention. I could just as easily say that all this female skin in society is indicative of our western tendency towards deference to a fem-etiquette matriarchy.

    Noticed that no one is talking about female lack of aptitude and focus in the technology world. Instead we talk about _her_ main raison d tre and point of her existence — sex. This rasion d tre is what she goes out of her way to promote as much as society will allow her. But then we are told “No, the skin etc everywhere is actually the side effect of society being damaging to female interests”. Nonsense. It is damaging to female interests to talk about her aptitude and character–the very things we never talk about because we are always talking about her sex and penumbra which she promotes in every venue she is tokened into.


    Oh and dreinn, feminism is in not in any, way, shape or form based on “logic and study.” LOL, nice try.

    http://seanmaccloud.blogspot.com/

  • silverdragonn

    I’m more concerned that the application of tissue engineering so touted on the magazine cover is for breast implants. The caption says it’s for medical purposes, and yet, since when have breast implants been for medical (and not cosmetic) purposes?

    It just sits sour with me that breast implants are considered to be “normal” and the implications that go with it – i.e., a woman has to be physically perfect and that can usually be acquired through surgery – and now, rather than face the stigma of implants, a woman can have “naturally enhanced” breasts.

    I say shame on Wired for pushing the expectation that women are to have large breasts.

  • http://thecultofaman.wordpress.com DqtmaReyz

    I don’t see what the big snuff is. Sexy is sexy. It sells. We live in a free market. Let’s let our market decide what works.

  • ckent32

    Get over it! What ever happened to “A sound mind in a sound body”? Having one hardly precludes the other. In fact, everyone should strive for both. Do you really want a future where technology makes us all look like Cartesian brains in a vat of electrodes? Or would you prefer we look like Greek gods & goddesses… or at least like “Star Trek” guest stars (original series)? “Feminists Against Beauty” (or even against sex) makes about as much sense as “Vegetarians Against Food”. (And what ever happened to “Humanists” rather than “Feminists”?) See ya– I’m heading for the gym.

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