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Windows Blue: Return of the Start Button?

The next version of Windows may look a little more like...Windows.

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ZDnet’s Mary-Jo Foley is reporting that Windows Blue, the upcoming Windows 8 update, may make it more possible to use Windows like…well, Windows:

Reports from a couple of different forums from this past weekend raised the possibility that Microsoft might be moving toward allowing users to skip booting into the Metro-Style Start menu and instead start their PCs in desktop mode. (Winbeta.org noted the thread about this on April 14.)

One of my sources confirmed this is now looking like the plan and added that Microsoft is also considering bringing back the Start button as an option with Windows Blue.

Ever since it first became clear that Microsoft planned to eliminate the classic Start button and didn’t intend to let Windows 8 users boot directly into the desktop, I’ve assumed that the odds were pretty good that it would eventually back down. The company says that usability research proves that folks quickly learn Windows 8 and don’t find it confusing. But these two changes in particular added up to a convenient excuse to avoid Windows 8 — and have therefore hurt Microsoft as much as they have Windows users.

Or is there even one person out there who wants to argue that bringing back the Start button and letting people boot into the desktop — as options — is a bad idea?

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AndrewDeleon
AndrewDeleon

t o turn on the desktop in win8 all you have to do  is right click on the taskbar and turn on the desktop, which will be in the lower right hand corner ,   click on the double arrow and the desktop is on the right!


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manager
manager

When you have very capable programers who can not use the English language, they have to resort to what they know; pictures.

mahadragon
mahadragon

It didn't make any sense to make Metro the start screen in the first place. How many people were pining to use Microsoft Apps on the desktop? If Microsoft wants to make Metro an app buried in the Start Menu someplace that would be fine, few people use it anyways. 

The Start Screen as currently constituted is the same interface you find on Windows Phone both littered with Live Tiles. The screen is designed to give you a lot of information at a glance. I don't understand why this is necessary on the desktop. Just because an interface works well on a phone doesn't mean it will work well on the desktop.

JuniorM
JuniorM

It seems Microsoft recognizes its fail. Let's see what is going to happen next.
I would appreciate Windows 8 users to post their thoughts and comments on https://www.facebook.com/pages/Do-not-install-Windows-8/396967503706881

Slvrgun
Slvrgun

@JuniorM Worthless link. 

Win 8 works just fine on my non touch desktop. I spend 99% my time in the desktop anyway and only use Metro to do light emailing and browsing. 

I don't really use the start button as pins and search are faster but I can understand why people are crying about it. Now people will have two less reasons (and major ones) to complain about Windows 8.

brian_st
brian_st like.author.displayName 1 Like

What they are suggesting, really isn't enough. When I became frustrated with Windows 8, I installed a start button program that did both of those things. But Windows 8 "Metro" interferes in many other ways. For example, view a photo on the desktop will start the "Metro" Photos app. Finally, I set out to make Windows 8 as Metro-free as possible. Here is what I did: http://computingcompendium.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-to-live-with-windows-8.html

Microsoft would have to do a similar set of things before most users will be happy with Windows 8.

DanielHolloway
DanielHolloway

@brian_st setting default applications has long been a feature of Windows.  It's not a new feature they just added.  The same goes for PDF.  The default is the new Reader app, but there's nothing stopping you from installing Foxit or Adobe Reader.  In previous version of Windows, you got no pdf reader built in, and now you do, and there's several apps to open pictures....I don't get your frustration

brian_st
brian_st

@DanielHolloway @brian_st Changing defaults first off all is not that simple, you have to do it for all the various file types. Microsoft has no business, by default, sending an operation on the Desktop Explorer, to a "Metro" app, especially ones as lousy as Photos and Video. To add insult to injury, they don't give you an easy way back to where you were working [hitting the Back button will send you to the Start Screen]. In short, I do not have a problem with the idea that Microsoft provides two different interfaces. I do have a problem when they are forcing you to go back and forth between them to do simple tasks.

hubert.hammack
hubert.hammack

There you go Harry. Is the irrelevance of Microsoft in the upcoming dominant mobile market doesn't convince you, I don't know what does. At least Microsoft can make a killing with Windows 7 every 3 years in a continually declining market. Maybe that's ultimately what you want, the death of Windows and Microsoft.

Luscus
Luscus like.author.displayName 1 Like

I dislike typing (maybe because i use 2 fingers and have to look at the keyboard), so the first program I installed in wind 8 was classic shell and Voila I defeated the 2 things I disliked about Win 8, 1 it boots right into my desktop, 2 it has a start button. I still really dislike most things RT in windows 8, I don't think I have ever really used the RT side, I have had by default some apps open on the RT side and they are slow, and half baked.....On the other hand the side with the desktop works mostly ok I have many freezes with windows explorer (that even MS tech help could not help me with) I welcome most of the upgrades especially with windows explorer ribbon.

regodasilva
regodasilva like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@eakkas Typing what, exactly? The operating system has now become a word processor, or something?

eakkas
eakkas like.author.displayName 1 Like

I actually do not miss the start button. Hit the Windows key and start typing, much faster than taking your keys off the keyboard, clicking on the start button and looking for stuff. Booting to the desktop should be an easy to configure option although it really is not a big deal. All it takes is a Win+D