Retailer Predicts Wii U Will Outpace PS4 and Xbox One this Holiday, but Read Carefully

That may not be what the retailer in fact claimed.

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This is interesting — maybe a little nuts, but interesting nonetheless: Rakuten, which owns Play.com, the U.K.-based online purveyor of games, clothes, movies and more, is saying it expects the Wii U to outsell the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One this holiday.

Well, maybe: MCV, which reported as much under the rubric “Play.com predicts Wii U dominance this Christmas,” may be misinterpreting what it itself cites the Japanese e-commerce and Internet company as saying, which is this: “The company predicts that Wii U and iPad will be more popular than Xbox One and PS4 amongst children this Christmas.”

Popular with children, mind you. Rakutin reportedly went on to cite a Twitter analysis, in which it says the Wii U and iPad were “the most talked about presents for children this Christmas.”

Children are an important demographic — one Nintendo’s appealed to for decades. You could argue, with actual numbers buttressing your argument, that Nintendo’s been the dominant games seller to children since pretty much the original Nintendo Entertainment System. But what are you arguing? Certainly not dominance.

The Wii U has sold somewhere in the vicinity of four million units worldwide to date, which would be a terrific figure had the console just launched alongside the PS4 and Xbox One last month instead of over a year ago. System sales have been up since Nintendo dropped the price on the Deluxe model $50, further bolstered by the release of Super Mario 3D World before Thanksgiving. But expecting the Wii U to outpace Sony and Microsoft’s multimillions-selling new consoles seems fanciful at best. Marry Wii U sales totals to the 3DS and now you have a plausible overall-brand argument, but unless Sony and Microsoft run into stocking issues, the Wii U by itself is probably a lock for third place.

Nothing wrong with third place: Sony’s PlayStation 3 held the position for most of its existence. And there’s no reason, at least not yet, to base your purchase decision on sales projections. This is a long game and we’re still in its early days. The question ought to be “What do you want to play?” All I can tell you is that for me, this holiday, on a set-top console specifically, the answer is simple: Super Mario 3D World and Pikmin 3 and Zelda: The Wind Waker HD.

(MORE: Watch here to some of the games currently available on the Wii U)

63 comments
uncletys
uncletys

i have a ps4 and wii u and i prefer the wii u (the controller is the gamechanger). Although Assasins Creed 4 on PS4 was visually stunning 

frongillo.r
frongillo.r

I paid 245$ for a wii u deluxe set bundle with Mario+luigi and i don't regret it. I plan to buy a x1 or ps4 when the price drop next year. 499$+tx no games its too expensive for me 

panorama.vee
panorama.vee

I am 31 and I'm not married but owned the Wii because it's a children's game. That's the main reason I bought it. I have a PC, PS3 and Wii, but I spent more hundreds of hours on the Wii than any other consoles. I'm going to get my Wii U next year, I have cancelled PS4 because the launched games I played was suck hard. Spent time playing several PS4 games, it was nothing more than just polygon counts and graphic power. That's it. I find Wii games are more a GAME, Nintendo concentrate on the GAME than anything else and that makes it great.

shaunyb86
shaunyb86

there could be some truth behind this,if you take into account the poor set of launch games on the ps4 you can understand the wii u doing a little better for the time being.i personally won't be buying a ps4 until the new year when something half decent comes out.

Fearsome
Fearsome

Of course the faithful will purchase and Xbox 1 and PS4, and thats what we are seeing at launch. But I've said this on numerous occasions on many gaming sites, the average family will not be able to justify paying about $500 for a PS4 (taxes and a game) and close to $650 for Xbox1 (taxes, Xbox live subscriptions and a game).  My sister in-law went out today to look for an xbox1 for her son, she went into sticker shock and got him 3DS XL (he already has a WiiU). On Friday, my best friend son also wanted a Xbox 1, he looked online, a called all around for a better price. Take a wild guess as to who is not getting an Xbox1 this holiday. The thing about  the Wii, it was affordable, anyone could waste money on one whether they played a couple or times or not.  I predicted this some time ago, initial sales of the xbox1 and ps4 will be strong out the gate, but families struggling to make ends meet will not buy these machines over long haul until their prices are cut.

LeeLong
LeeLong

yea ok i highly doubt that

OrangeLada
OrangeLada

I suspect the Wii U could well outsell the PS4 and Xbox1 this season, and there are some cogent reasons to believe that.


Not only does Wii U have more (and arguably better) games, but Christmas is about kids and the WiiU while having lots of adult games, inarguably has a special children's focus. 


Then there are product shortages on Xbox1 and PS4.  Wii U is arguably better positioned in its supply chain.  If you can't deliver product, you can't win a sales race.


Ohh ... last point.  Wii U truly is a great machine (I may pick up a PS4 and Xbox1 as well, time will tell) and it is priced very attractively, including a pack-in game.

FullCircle_360
FullCircle_360

It would be nice if the Wii u did sell so well but I have a feeling that's not going to happen, They keep releasing games that boost sales of the console by a bit but not by much. Looking at the sale figures for super mario 3D shows that it isn't selling very well, heck knack is outselling it and knack has lower review scores then Super mario 3D does. I do own a Wii u but rarely play it as I only have 1 game on it having lost nintendo land. The main reason I got a wii u was for monster hunter 3 ultimate but even that I don't play much as I feel the gamepad is a little too bulky for me, I am hoping to get a pro controller for xmas though. I haven't seen a must have game on the wii u yet and am starting to loose hope for 1. There are more games that interest me on the Xbone, PS3 and 3DS that interest me more then the wii u which has 1 game being released next year that I have been watching since they announced it.

Blahable
Blahable

LOL comparing the Wii U toy to the beast of XBOX and Playstation..


The first wii was a temporary cute little gimmick for the kiddies and seniors, this one is just awkward.

JimmyBoyChiTown101
JimmyBoyChiTown101

Stocking issues will haunt both One and 4, so that's why I say the U with its abundant availability will outsell- in certain stores at certain times, etc.

binghamkolby
binghamkolby

I can easily see where people would think the WiiU would outsell the PS4 and Xbox One

Everyone thought the Wii would fail, but that ended up outselling everyone, as did the DS, and 3DS

This situation seems different though, so only time will tell 

kadael72
kadael72

WII U is a gaming console, and thereby, appeals to children and casual gamers.

XBox One and PS4 are cinematic interaction consoles, and they are for people seeking immersive alternate world experiences.

WII U and Xbox One/PS4 are two very different products. WII U needs to be compared to mobile or tablet devices since they offer similar gaming experiences. XBox One and PS4 are the only 2 products in their own market.

Kirbydude900
Kirbydude900

Only time will tell how well the system sells. (That rymed! ^_^)  


Thinking forward, the idea of a Wii U HD Animal Crossing, 3D platforming Kirby game, Metroid, Starfox, F-Zero, Earthbound, Kid Icarus, and I pray to god, A HUGE 3D HD POKEMON RPG GAME, is not impossible. The system has so much potential for so many good games. Other 3rd party games such as, Mysims, Rune factory, Harvest moon, even Naruto and DBZ could be on it one day.  Games like that would sell pretty good. And those games were on the original Wii.


Going back to right now, It could Possibly outspace the other two...Especially if that Mario 3D world bundle comes to america. 


marcush108
marcush108

WiiU has more games foremost - it's been out for 100+ days. PS4/XB1 have not been out for more than 5 months. WiiU should have more sales overall since it had more time to gather sales. Common sense though upon day 1 release and a week after and another week PS4/XB1 caught up to such sales lighting fast.  From 2014-2016 PS4 will put out as many big huge exclusive titles or more than PS2 did in the 6th gen era while the rest will be multis that also get ported on XB1 but not WiiU - example Star Wars Battle Front Mirror's Edge 2 Fallout 4 Cyberpunk 2077 Kingdom Hearts 3 The Crew Thief The Evil Within etc. WiiU will just end up like the recent Nitnendo systems, meaning second hand ones just for the stereotypical Marios, 1 SSB, 1 true new Zelda, and so on until the next Wii blah blah blah comes out for more of these titles since nothing else is really on WiiU, which is similar how Wii Gamecube and N64 were.  That's how it will go. I believe PS4 will outsell WiiU and XB1 will try to. Nintendo stated WiiU will put out 25 million while Sony said 45 million and Mircosoft I'm not sure

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

At the moment the Wii U is a better game console than the PS4 or X1. Not sure if that'll hold by june of next year or not and the Wii U is certainly not as good at being the center of home entertainment beyond games as the X1 is (I assume the PS4 is as good but since I don't have that I can't say).


But the Wii U is cheaper than either of them and has more (And currently more fun) games. So I can see it doing well this christmas.

MatthewBryant
MatthewBryant

@shaunyb86 You didn't read the article.  It said that Wii U will do better among children.  That's a no-brainer.  The sky is blue too. 

MatthewBryant
MatthewBryant

@Fearsome Consoles have always been expensive.  This is not a new thing.  People will still buy them.

coolspot
coolspot

@Fearsome People are buying iPads and iPhone in droves ... seems even the poorest family in America has extra cash to buy those gadgets.

Psincennes
Psincennes

@OrangeLada I agree with you, I got the Wii U and having a blast with my son. I will also pick up a PS4 or Xbox1 if the price lowers or comes as some sort of bundle.

OrangeLada
OrangeLada

@Blahable That type of comment indicates your lack of maturity.  I have access to anything I want, and I prefer the Wii U to either PS4 or Xbox1 at this time.  


The games the Wii U has are better, and games like AC4 and Deus Ex that I love, PLAY better on the Wii U.  Yeap, AC4 looks better on the PS4, without doubt, but I prefer play value.  Wii U is also graphically better than my last generation PS3.



JosephCWren
JosephCWren

@Blahable 

A temporary cute little gimmick that sold 40 million more units than anything you preferred.

viliamiuchiha
viliamiuchiha

Nobody really thought much about the Wii U until it was released, and after it released it actually did fail, Wii sold a lot more in the first year.

willoberleitner
willoberleitner

@kadael72 I do not think the wiiu should be compared to ios/mobile just like the 3ds sets itself apart as "handheld gaming". There are other mid level gaming experiences that are more robust then mobile yet do not quite have the depth of core games.  I think nintendo does well here.

binghamkolby
binghamkolby

The WiiU isn't a cinematic interaction console?

Using marketing buzzwords does not fill a valid point sir

BobbySlobby
BobbySlobby

@kadael72 The Wii U isn't that different from the PS4/Xbox One.  All three consoles have "hardcore" gaming experiences e.g. Call of Duty, other first person shooters, RPGs etc.  The Wii U obviously just has more casual games.

amemordeno
amemordeno

@marcush108  what are you talking about? your an idiot the ps4 and xbox have not been out for 5 months ? you are very ignorant

viliamiuchiha
viliamiuchiha

Not really, PS4 and XB1 already beat the Wii U in terms of specs. Only in terms of appeal for children, that the Wii U probably beats the PS4 and XB1.

WalterThetechguyGatesJr.
WalterThetechguyGatesJr.

According to you it's the better game console. The Wii U is mainly for children and family game play in which the gaming comes with simplicity. For a console bundle the PS4 and Wii U in my opinion is best for me that is.

Psincennes
Psincennes

@djmeyer Wrong I know alot of PS4s are available. I agree that the Wii U will probably outsell PS4 and XBOX one, they are way too expensive. Im an xbox fan and I couldnt afford it so I went with the Wii U instead. Having a blast with my son !

calewds
calewds

@viliamiuchiha


I largely blame Nintendo's horrible marketing for that. They seemingly made next to no effort to make people aware of the Wii U's existence.

Amin_and_Azizah
Amin_and_Azizah

I agree with you, plus if you factor in the fact that the visuals for Xbone/ps4 does not look like that big of a leap from what the Wii U is providing now, then its just not worth buying the other two systems over the Wii U at this point in time. As time goes on, all 3 consoles will be displaying better graphics as Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony becomes more familiar with their new hardware, but the leap will not be that drastic as people are thinking it will be. I also think that focusing too much on graphics will come at a high cost, and Nintendos console is cheaper to develop for in comparison to the other companies so I think Nintendo is in a good position this generation. Even if they come in third place Nintendo should do just fine existing within their own ecosystem.

kadael72
kadael72

@binghamkolby Cinematic interaction is a differentiating factor between XBox One/PS4 and WII U. From the last generation, MS and Sony invested heavily in using the cutting edge graphics technology for this while Nintendo opted for casual fun gaming.

In the last generation, Nintendo's WII sold much more initially and every one thought Nintendo made the right decision going after casual gaming audience. Nintendo won mostly because tablet and mobile games were not a force at the time and its product was in its market alone and MS and Sony lost mostly because graphics technology was not mature enought for interactive cinematic gaming.

This generation is different. Finally, the computing graphics are mature enough for XBox One and PS4 to provide near movie quality cinematic experiences while Nintendo has formidable opponents in the form of tablets and smart phones.

MS and Sony are finally repeaping the benefits of their vision of interative cinematic gaming. Eventually, they will compete with Hollywood which offers passive cinematic experience.

Every family will want and will have an either XBox One or PS4 if they want to enjoy the next generation movie experiences at home.

calewds
calewds

@BobbySlobby @kadael72


Personally I think of Call of Duty as a series that heavily appeals to casual gamers. It depends on how you define the term casual game.

kadael72
kadael72

@calewds @kadael72 PC is too expensive and too complicated to set up to have a mass appeal. PC is complicated not only to consumers but also to developers because of its widely different components, both software and hardware. Most immersive games will be developed first for XBox One and PS4 because of its huge market and ease of development, then may be ported to PC, maybe.

calewds
calewds

@amemordeno @marcush108


He's technically correct I guess. The PS4 and Xbox One have in fact not been out for more than five months and the Wii U has indeed been out for 100+ days. I can't explain his extremely weird phrasing though.

DominicObojkovits
DominicObojkovits

@viliamiuchiha Lol cool, I'm going to by my clothes based on their thread count not what they look like >.< It's silly, you buy a console for games. period. When X1 and PS4 get good games (which they don't have please check exclusives reviews) Knack is absolutely crap (so sad, so much potential). Super Mario 3D world is awesome (96 to boot and exclusive) cross platform games don't count for X1 or Ps4 as I can have them on my PC (with a better experience to boot #1440P not 1080 or 720)

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@viliamiuchiha In spec, certainly. But if a person wants to play games right now then specs are not really the only thing that they care about - there is also that pesky point where "Games" come into it. And right now the Wii U's games catalog is more mature than the X1 or PS4.

nico7821
nico7821

@WalterThetechguyGatesJr. Wii U to family gaming and simplicity.  I think there are a LOT who stereotype Nintendo as childish, simple, etc.  Nintendo games are about as challenging or more so than any Call of Duty or other game.  Also most Nintendo games require a fair amount of reading, a skill most young preschool age children do not have.  I prefer Nintendo games for their unique games and gameplay.  Every Mario game is different, unique and challenging, while at the same time being similar.

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@WalterThetechguyGatesJr. I mean, basically we all know that the real generation of games that makes a console good do not usually come until that second wave of games hits... and it's just that the Wii U has had time to have the second and third wave hit.

TimothyCollins
TimothyCollins

@WalterThetechguyGatesJr. Well, what I mean by "Better game console" is that the Wii U has more games and the games have had time to mature much more than the others... I mean, I am playing Assassins Creed 4 on my X1 currently (Not now... Now I am typing here) and it's absolutely great - but there is nothing that makes the X1 version of it that much greater than the PS4 or 360 or PS3 or Wii U version. But there is an argument that the fundamental "gameyness" of the latest Super Mario game is currently better...


None of that is a knock on the games for the other consoles. It's just that the Wii U has a years head start on getting that wave of games actually made for it going...

robert.haze.lawson
robert.haze.lawson

So Call Of Duty is a kids game? Lol, that makes two ignorant people in this thread alone.

JoshSnypeReynolds
JoshSnypeReynolds

@calewds @viliamiuchiha Nintendo has actually openly admitted to botching the launch. Sales have been steadily climbing, but it has yet to really hit it's stride. I guess you can't say anything bad about a console that continuously sells more units than it did the month before. The biggest problem is it didn't launch with good first party software and Nintendo software always supports Nintendo hardware. Had they launched it with 3D World, Smash Bros and the Zelda that is still in development, we would have a very different console on our hands. Plus, Nintendo has still yet to give us anything to show the value of a second screen experience on a home console (despite having done it for years on the DS). Anyone that has owned a DS or 3DS knows how useful second screen can be, but they have to show off it's value to the casual market, which is a solid place to get an install base and draw in third party dev support.

MarkBryant
MarkBryant

@kadael72 The visual difference between PS4 and PS3, and Xbox ONE and 360 is not that big of a jump. The disparity between the original Xbox and PS2 to 360 and PS3 was massive, as you were going from SD to HD. This time, you are finally getting a couple of consoles that can finally display 1080p without having to be upscaled (although early indicators show otherwise). There is a massive electronics chain in the Uk, and they have taken in so many Xbox ONE`s, they cannot take any more in. That gives you a small indication of what people want, and what they are being offered. Both Cliff Bezowski (Gears of War) and Peter Molyneaux (Fable), stated that in 2 years there will be just 2 console developers. Nintendo was one, but neither would say who they thought the other would be. And that is from two of the most respected, and informed people in the gaming industry, who know a lot more than you or I.

MarkBryant
MarkBryant

@kadael72 PC gaming is not getting slower, if anything, it is picking up, at a massive rate. Your talk about replacing a GPU as being hard, do not be an idiot. You pull out your existing one, and slot in the new one, hard??? With consoles, especially PS4 and Xbox ONE, you are stuck with that, already, out of date tech for the next ten years. I have recently upgraded my PC to a standard about 3 times more powerful than PS4....... total cost to me..... £318.00. STEAM is the way to go for PC gaming for me, and my Wii U is their for system exclusives, and any other titles that make a genuine good use of the pad.

orange.cheatah
orange.cheatah

@kadael72 TOO COMPLEX! This and price are the two things that put people off PC's and they are both huge myths. PC won't be hard to use - most people use them in their jobs so most people have experience. With Steam games are easy to access, especially with Big Picture mode. 


You can purchase pre-built PC's so you shouldn't worry about building one, and there will be many Steam boxes available soon which are essentially pre-built PC's. One I saw cost the same as an Xbox One, yet had more powerful hardware.

And people shouldn't think replacing a GPU is complex, it is definitely not. It's as easy as plugging in your console. There's only 1-3 things to plug in. One big slot in the PC, the only one it fits into, it just needs to be plugged into there, AND THAT'S IT. Maybe 1-2 power plugs too, y'know the ONLY ONES that fit into the GPU. It's also easy to then install the driver, as the GPU comes with a disk and most of the installation is automated. There's a reason all the wires are colour coded, to make building the PC easy. I built a PC when I was like 10 with no manuals and put together the whole PC, it's easy. The only place I came into trouble was plugging in the power, reset buttons and HDD light, as the text was small on the motherboard and I wasn't sure where to plug it in. 


PC is becoming more and more relevant. Since Steam it has just been growing. Steam workshop even makes modding easy, just find the mod and click one button. And mods are like free unlimited dlc! They're implementing so many features and don't have to restart with each gen. PC has most of the console multiplatform hardcore games, many indies to suit the casual market and more exclusives than any other platform. Plus it's by far the best platform for strategy games, MOBA's, MMO's, indie games, simulators, hack n' slash, etc. Mainly cause these genres need more buttons, only available with a keyboard. 


I really like the Wii U though. I think most PC gamers tend to be Nintendo fans, or atleast that's what most come across as. Probably cause Wii U and 3DS are the only consoles to offer more of an alternate experience to PC, which PS4 and XOne don't do as well. As in, Nintendo offers more iconic exclusives not available on PC. 

kadael72
kadael72

@KitsuneHazard

"So, for a little more you can build a PC"

You may be able to build the PC, but most non-tech people can't or don't want to do that.

I have an engineering degree, and heck, I don't want to have the hassle of finding right components, ordering them, and assembling them. I would rather plug and play.

"Also your comment of the PC being too complex?"

PC is way too complicated to most people compared to console.

Most Americans and most people in the world do not want to deal with electronic insides. They want a sleek looking electronic gadgets that are plug and play. There is a reason why people pay hundreds more to buy Apple mac than PC even though a comparably priced PC is much more powerful. Most people just don't want the PC complexity. They would never ever think about replacing GPU card on their own. Too complicated!

PC is becoming less and less relevant. The vacuum PC is leavng behind is filled with consoles which is becoming more and more powerful and much more standardized.

KitsuneHazard
KitsuneHazard

@kadael72 @calewdsI hate to say this, but the PC is definitely not cost prohibitive.


If you go out and buy an Xbox One with an extra controller, year of Xbox Live, and two games, you're spending about $750 right now. The PS4 is about $650 (add $200 if you want the Vita remote play and don't have one).


So, for a little more you can build a PC that will play a ton of the same games that are on consoles and look a lot better.Get a graphics card with an HDMI out on it and hook it into your TV. Boom, you're set and in the Xbox One's case...don't have to pay $60 a year to access stuff that should be free anyways...go fig, eh?


Also your comment of the PC being too complex? That's why the PS4 and Xbox One both use the same x86 architecture that's in PC's...not because it's more complicated, but to make it easier for PC games to be ported to the consoles, which is what 80% of 3rd party do...you need to wake up some.


Or you could pay $300 and have pretty kick ass system in the Wii U...personally we're going the PC/Wii U route for now...until the PS4/Xbox One prices drop and there's more there that we want to play on them.

DominicObojkovits
DominicObojkovits

@kadael72 @calewds Why do I feel that Steam having 65 Million users bigs to differ... PC doesn't need mass appeal it needs mass market (which it has with Steams dominance). PS3 and Xbox 360 sold 79 and 80 million units respectively, not only is steam only 14 million short of that but its growing at a faster rate and didn't need to reset with the new console generation, meaning steams dominance is longer lived. Not saying consoles are bad or gone or don't have a market just saying that PC does have mass appeal (if you consider 75 million people mass appeal) also Steam has the highest number for concurrent users with their record breaking 7.13 Million concurrent users during the autumn sale (happened recently). Personally I'm getting a WiiU for Christmas and will probably pick up the PS4 when the last guardian comes out! (Thats going to be such a system seller, anyone remember Shadow of the colossus). PC will never EVER EVER be a contender for Xmas season or familys or people just getting into gaming however it does have a slow steady climb which over time will make a big difference, think about when Steam gets to 100-200 million users (probably around the end of 8th Gen) can you imagine how much Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony are going to have to fork out for exclusives if you can just sell 40+ million units on PC when a console has only 3-4 million users at the start (not all of whom will become sales). I reckon the longevity of games coming out on console first will last a couple more years at best.


SOURCES: 

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/12/02/steam-breaks-the-7-million-concurrent-users-barrier/

http://n4g.com/news/1397637/steam-now-65-million-users-strong#c-8546268

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-09-19-sony-sets-ps4-sales-target-of-5-million-units-by-march-2014